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Thank you for visting Waterstone Labradors, we are one of the few facilities to breed and train British and Irish Labradors the same way they do overseas. We only do a few litters a year comapred to some kennels who are having 20-30 litters a year. There are not enough good genetics to sustain that type of breeding and produce superior puppies. We also train without e-collars as we beleive this has been detrimental to breeding Labradors in the US.  We welcome any questions you might have ....give us a call at 830-271-2366.

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How will you train your dog?

Let’s look at some methods that can work for you to train your dog.

There is certainly more than one way to train your dog but there are methods that are more effective. The most common ways used to train are bribery (treat training) and fear(pressure).

Let’s look at bribery first. Treat training is perfectly acceptable for a young puppy to train sit, stay, here etc. Prolonged use can lead to problems in your dog. They can become too dependent on the treat to accomplish the task. Only do this with young puppies to start the behavior and quickly get away from it.
Fear can be delivered in several ways, e collar pressure, verbal pressure or physical correction such as a leash. 
The e collar can be an effective tool but like most tools it can be misused. Your dog can become collar wise or show signs of overuse on the collar. Have you seen a dog cower or put its head down when a whistle is blown? This is a sign of too much collar pressure. British dogs are typically softer and don’t tolerate this very well. I personally like to see a stylish happy dog in training. I don’t want to see robotic movements when a dog is training.
The most effective way to train a dog is to make sure you are the alpha and pack leader for the dog. This immediately gives you the heads-up on the training process. You cannot treat your dog like a human or baby the dog, a smart dog like a lab will run you over and the training nightmare begins. 
Some helpful tips are as follows.
A tired dog is a good dog, make sure your dog is getting enough exercise. A bored dog will be destructive and a problem to train. While walking your dog is good for both of you, it’s not as effective as off lead work. Walking your dog (nature walks) is great for your dog to be just a dog. So, with that said off lead reliability and recalling your dog is critical to this exercise.
Stimulate your dog mentally, games and drills are great to help your dog learn and behave better. 

Contact us for help with any training issue.




By David Bavero August 21, 2023
Let’s look at some methods that can work for you to train your dog. There is certainly more than one way to train your dog but there are methods that are more effective. The most common ways used to train are bribery (treat training) and fear(pressure). Let’s look at bribery first. Treat training is perfectly acceptable for a young puppy to train sit, stay, here etc. Prolonged use can lead to problems in your dog. They can become too dependent on the treat to accomplish the task. Only do this with young puppies to start the behavior and quickly get away from it. Fear can be delivered in several ways, e collar pressure, verbal pressure or physical correction such as a leash. The e collar can be an effective tool but like most tools it can be misused. Your dog can become collar wise or show signs of overuse on the collar. Have you seen a dog cower or put its head down when a whistle is blown? This is a sign of too much collar pressure. British dogs are typically softer and don’t tolerate this very well. I personally like to see a stylish happy dog in training. I don’t want to see robotic movements when a dog is training. The most effective way to train a dog is to make sure you are the alpha and pack leader for the dog. This immediately gives you the heads-up on the training process. You cannot treat your dog like a human or baby the dog, a smart dog like a lab will run you over and the training nightmare begins. Some helpful tips are as follows. A tired dog is a good dog, make sure your dog is getting enough exercise. A bored dog will be destructive and a problem to train. While walking your dog is good for both of you, it’s not as effective as off lead work. Walking your dog (nature walks) is great for your dog to be just a dog. So, with that said off lead reliability and recalling your dog is critical to this exercise. Stimulate your dog mentally, games and drills are great to help your dog learn and behave better. Contact us for help with any training issue.
By David Bavero July 10, 2023
American Labradors VS British Labradors, what is the real difference? Standing side by side, you may notice only slight differences. They are the same genetically but they are very different dogs. The origins of the Labrador Retriever date back to the St. Johns Water Dogs in Newfoundland. The St. John's Water Dogs were a landrace of dogs that were bred by the environment and land in Newfoundland. You can learn about landraces of dogs here. What is a canine landrace? The Greater and Lesser Newfoundland or St. John's Water Dogs were born in the same litters. These were working dogs. The Greater Newfoundland had long hair and pulled carts in the villages and the Lesser Newfoundland (these dogs had short smooth coats) were put to work on fishing boats where they retrieved nets and the fish that got away. They are now extinct but the St. John's Water Dogs were the foundation dogs of the Labrador Retriever, the Newfoundland and the Chesapeake Bay Retriever. The Lesser Newfoundlands were so prized as retrievers they were imported to England on sailing ships and were bred to English hunting dogs to develop the modern Labrador Retriever. The Kennel Club (English) recognized the Labrador Retriever in 1903 and the American Kennel Club recognized the breed in 1917. The original Labradors where black but in 1899, “Ben of Hyde” was the first recorded yellow lab. The original yellow labs where actually what we would refer to as Fox Red today. The desire for lighter shades developed many different shades of yellow. Then in 1892, two liver colored puppies were produced by the Earl of Buccleuch in England. The breed standard for color according to AKC states the following: "The Labrador Retriever coat colors are black, yellow and chocolate. Any other color or a combination of colors is a disqualification. A small white spot on the chest is permissible, but not desirable. White hairs from aging or scarring are not to be misinterpreted as brindling. Black Blacks are all black. A black with brindle markings or a black with tan markings is a disqualification. Yellows may range in color from fox-red to light cream, with variations in shading on the ears, back, and underparts of the dog. Chocolate Chocolates can vary in shade from light to dark chocolate. Chocolate with brindle or tan markings is a disqualification". The Kennel Club in England (where the beed was developed and finished) states the following: "The only correct colours are wholly black, yellow and liver/chocolate. Yellows range from light cream to fox red, livers/chocolates range from light to dark. Small white spot on chest and the rear of front pasterns permissible. Any other colour or combination of colours not permitted." It has been over 100 years since the breed standard was written and the stud books were closed. How has the Labrador Retriever evolved since the early 1900's? Genetically, Labradors all over the world are the same. However, Labradors in America and the UK have evolved down several different paths. This article specifically addresses the differences between field bred Labradors on both sides of the pond. American Field Labradors: We saw a divergence from dual champion dogs in Labrador Retrievers in America in the 1960's. The last dual CH-FC AFC was CH-FC AFC Highwood Shadow in 1984 . Like most things in America, American sportsmen and competitors wanted a bigger, faster and more driven dog with longer legs, larger muzzle and zero quit. This made field bred Labradors no longer competitive in the show ring. In theory, breeding dogs with higher drive and a sleeker and faster frame seems like a good idea but in the wrong hands; it’s can be a disaster. Many dogs from these lines are rehomed or taken to the pound because their owners were not prepared to train and live with these dogs. When looking at American Field Trial Pedigrees you will see dogs with FC (Field Champion), NFC (National Field Champion), and QA2 (Qualified All Age) before or behind their names. The letters represent titles obtained by the dogs and their handlers in competitions. Dogs in these pedigrees where bred specifically for the Field Trials and in my opinion, they are too intense and have too much go to be good hunting dogs. Some pro trainers get good results but for the average person, field trial stock is often more dog than everyday people want or can manage. Obviously, there are exceptions to this rule. Waterstone Labradors competes in AKC and UKC sanctioned Hunt Tests. During our time competing in Hunt Tests I have noticed an alarming trend. Approximately 70% of the dogs competing in Field Trial and Hunt Tests lack the control needed to be all around great gun dogs. Dogs selectively bred for high drive and all go often results in an unpleasant experience for the handler. We often see dogs at Hunt Tests and Field Trials barking and being unruly. This is not behavior that I tolerate in the duck blind and neither should you. Dogs breaking out in front of the gun or dogs being vocal in the blind doesn't lead itself to safety or a pleasant experience in the field. The British Labrador Not much has changed for British Labradors since the stud books closed in 1903. Physically, the British Labrador is a slightly stocky dog with a large head, a muscular appearance and a shorter muzzle. The dog was bred for its game finding ability, confident and calm demeanor and its ability to not disturb game in the filed. These dogs were selectively bred for their ability to have drive while remaining quiet in competition and hunting scenarios. The British Labrador was and is bred to be a dog you can live, hunt and compete with. A look at the differences It is my belief that genetics and training both play a part in the distinct behavioral differences between British and American field Labradors. On both sides of the pond, they selectively breed for specific temperaments in Labrador Retrievers. They just aren't breeding for the same characteristics. That is why we see such stark differences in behavior. Selective breeding in the UK has resulted in dogs that are trainable and a pleasure to live and work with. When examining a British Field Labrador pedigree, look for dogs with FTCH (Field Trial Champion) or FTW (Field Trial Winner) in the pedigree. By choosing a puppy from a line of FTCH and FTW dogs in it, you have a better chance of obtaining a puppy who is calm, quiet and effective in the filed. In order to achieve the FTCH or FTW titles the dog must have excellent game finding ability, must be calm and sit steady at the line and they must be silent. During a British or Irish field trial, the slightest whine will disqualify your dog. In a 16 dog trial, the dogs are required to sit off lead for long periods of time while birds rain from the sky. The dogs are required to be calm, to stay and to remain quiet. If you want a dog with these characteristics you must breed dogs who also have them. That is what selective breeding is all about. American training methods focus on marking, introducing game and guns to dogs in early puppyhood. This creates a dog that wants to retrieve for themselves. British methods focus on bonding, obedience especially off lead healing and steadiness before marking. Also the dogs do a lot of memory retrieves and learn to handle on T pattern or a 3 card trick as it is referred to before any complex marks. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. What is Pressure? Pressure is a correction we issue to a dog when they do an undesirable behavior. Dogs must learn to accept correction and to turn off pressure or corrections. It is our job as trainers to teach dogs what is expected of them and to teach them how to comply with correction thus turning off the pressure to get the desired response. It is the foundation of retriever training. There are different types of pressure in dog training that range from pinch collars to ecollar use. The ecollar has made it possible to control your dog remotely and this has produced many titled dogs. However, I believe breeding dogs that can take and turn off large amounts of pressure has done a lot of damage to the breed. This is evidenced by the discrepancy between the breed standard's temperament and the temperament of most American Field Labradors. The breed standard for temperament per The Labrador Retriever Club in The United States reads as follows: True Labrador Retriever temperament is as much a hallmark of the breed as the “otter” tail. The ideal disposition is one of a kindly, outgoing, tractable nature; eager to please and non-aggressive towards man or animal. The Labrador has much that appeals to people; his gentle ways, intelligence and adaptability make him an ideal dog. Aggressiveness towards humans or other animals, or any evidence of shyness in an adult should be severely penalized." The breed standard says Labradors should be kind, outgoing, tractable, eager to please, non-aggressive, gentle, intelligent and adaptable. Dogs that are selectively bred to withstand high amounts of pressure with high drive do not fit the breed standard. This point could be argued; American Field Labradors are all those things but they also can be anxious, too driven and vocal. We use many tools in dog training with the goal of changing behavior but the use of ecollars in training has changed how dogs are trained in America. How many FC, NFC MH, HRCH would there be without the use of an ecollar in training? It is the opinion of this trainer, there would be very few. As the Labrador Retriever has evolved, the games they compete in have changed too. Selectively breeding for dogs that can take a lot of pressure and turn it off has resulted in American Field Labradors being more driven, more anxious and less likely to be amazing companions. When you attend a Hunt Test, you can see some dogs are robotic, lack style and confidence. Their tails are tucked and they do not appear to be happy. It has been said that American Field Labradors perform well but at the cost of the dog. In many places in the world, training methods used by American Filed Trial and Hunt Test Trainers are illegal and are seen as cruel. Selective breeding for a high drive dogs who can take a lot of pressure combined with the these training methods is altering the genetics of the breed. This is evidenced by the behavior differences between American Field Labradors and British and Irish Field Labradors. Could the level of success seen in American Field Trial and Hunt Test dogs of been achieved if the training methods weren't so severe? I’m a purest and I disapprove of training with high amounts of pressure. In many places in the world, using high amounts of pressure and an ecollar is considered cheating. Kind of like the Barry Bonds home run record on steroids vs Aaron Judge all natural. Perhaps we need a HRCH* or MH* to note the training methods included ecollar use?
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